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Dec 12, 2019 You can now jack the individual Sound Slot Volume CVs up to 255 (instead of 128), giving more volume (effectively nearly 200% relative to earlier firmware). ESU gave us the ability to set individual file volumes to 200% whereas the v4 was capped lower, there must have been a reason.
ESU Lokprogrammer - page 26-27. All alternative sound slots that are parallel to the regular sounds. Are activated with shift mode. When shift mode is active all. ANY LokSound Select Sound file can be written to ANY LokSound Select decoder. This means you can write a Micro (N Scale) 738xx file to an 8 pin or 21MTC Select, and alternately a 734xx (HO Scale) file to a Micro or Select Direct decoder. The ESU LokProgrammer software will recognize the difference and ask you to proceed. Mar 04, 2019 ESU LokSound sound slots certainly add a layer of confusion to an otherwise great product. It would seem (to me) that they could just always assign specific sounds to specific sound slots the same way that most manufacturers do with CVs but that is not the way they have chosen to do it.
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Try this method for DCC systems that cannot program CVs higher than 255:
Set CV96 to the hundreds digit of the CV number that you are programming - The range is 0-9.
Set CV97 to the units and tens digits of the CV number that you are programming - The range is 0-99.
Set CV99 to the desired value of the CV that you are programming - The range is 0-255.
Example:
We want to set CV257 to a value of 6.
Set CV96 to 2 for the '200' range.
Set CV97 to 57 for the tens digit '5' and the units digit '7'.
Set CV99 to the value for CV257 of 6.
The volume CVs in any LokSound Select sound decoder are higher than 255. This is before and after Full Throttle was implemented. It sounds like you've been given volume CVs for Tsunami decoders.
From what I am seeing Atlas has not produced a GP40-2 with LokSound so if this locomotive does in fact have a LokSound decoder, it was installed by someone.
Without knowing what sound file they used on the decoder it will be hard to know what all of the volumes are but these should be close:
The master volume control is CV63 and has a range of 0-192. Before you can change any individual sound volumes in an ESU decoder you MUST set CV32=1 FIRST! Very important step. This is an index CV and if not set correctly will possibly make changes that you don't want.
The ESU Volume Control CVs are as follows. The range for all is 0-128:
CV259 = Prime Mover
CV275 = Horn
CV283 = Bell
CV291 = Coupler
CV299 = Dynamic Brake
CV307 = Compressor (note that this CV controls the compressor sound that is activated by a function key. There is another compressor sound that plays automatically as part of the Random Sounds.
CV315 = Radiator Fan
CV339 = Independent Brake (only applicable if your sound file has Full Throttle features)
CV347 = Brake Set/Brake Release
CV355 = Sanding Valve
CV363 = Short Air Let Off
CV387 = Slow Spitter Valve
CV451 = Random Sounds
CV459 = Brake Squeal
Some of these may not line up correctly as the sound volume CVs are dependent on the sound slots and what sound is assigned to each sound slot. The sounds that are assigned to sound slots are dependent on how the sound file was set-up by ESU. If you know the sound file number that is written to your decoder, you can get more accurate CV information.
ESU decoders are the best in my opinion for sound quality, motor control, and the many features they have. The thing that seems to trip people up a lot is expecting a general or generic CV set for every locomotive. This isn't the case with ESU decoders. Each specific sound file has it's own specific settings and programming. The sounds assigned to sound slots can be (and usually is) different per sound file.
The best way to work with ESU decoders is by using the ESU LokProgrammer software. You can use the software without the hardware. Having the hardware is the ultimate in being able to program ESU decoders but isn't necessary. Check out ESU's video on 'Show Changed CVs'. It's the last video on this page: http://www.esu.eu/en/videos/lokprogrammer/
Of course it would really help to know what sound file is in your locomotive. From there all of the CVs become much easier to program.
Lee Ryan - Rio Grande Fan
Denver, CO
Set CV96 to the hundreds digit of the CV number that you are programming - The range is 0-9.
Set CV97 to the units and tens digits of the CV number that you are programming - The range is 0-99.
Set CV99 to the desired value of the CV that you are programming - The range is 0-255.
Example:
We want to set CV257 to a value of 6.
Set CV96 to 2 for the '200' range.
Set CV97 to 57 for the tens digit '5' and the units digit '7'.
Set CV99 to the value for CV257 of 6.
The volume CVs in any LokSound Select sound decoder are higher than 255. This is before and after Full Throttle was implemented. It sounds like you've been given volume CVs for Tsunami decoders.
From what I am seeing Atlas has not produced a GP40-2 with LokSound so if this locomotive does in fact have a LokSound decoder, it was installed by someone.
Without knowing what sound file they used on the decoder it will be hard to know what all of the volumes are but these should be close:
The master volume control is CV63 and has a range of 0-192. Before you can change any individual sound volumes in an ESU decoder you MUST set CV32=1 FIRST! Very important step. This is an index CV and if not set correctly will possibly make changes that you don't want.
The ESU Volume Control CVs are as follows. The range for all is 0-128:
CV259 = Prime Mover
CV275 = Horn
CV283 = Bell
CV291 = Coupler
CV299 = Dynamic Brake
CV307 = Compressor (note that this CV controls the compressor sound that is activated by a function key. There is another compressor sound that plays automatically as part of the Random Sounds.
CV315 = Radiator Fan
CV339 = Independent Brake (only applicable if your sound file has Full Throttle features)
CV347 = Brake Set/Brake Release
CV355 = Sanding Valve
CV363 = Short Air Let Off
CV387 = Slow Spitter Valve
CV451 = Random Sounds
CV459 = Brake Squeal
Some of these may not line up correctly as the sound volume CVs are dependent on the sound slots and what sound is assigned to each sound slot. The sounds that are assigned to sound slots are dependent on how the sound file was set-up by ESU. If you know the sound file number that is written to your decoder, you can get more accurate CV information.
ESU decoders are the best in my opinion for sound quality, motor control, and the many features they have. The thing that seems to trip people up a lot is expecting a general or generic CV set for every locomotive. This isn't the case with ESU decoders. Each specific sound file has it's own specific settings and programming. The sounds assigned to sound slots can be (and usually is) different per sound file.
The best way to work with ESU decoders is by using the ESU LokProgrammer software. You can use the software without the hardware. Having the hardware is the ultimate in being able to program ESU decoders but isn't necessary. Check out ESU's video on 'Show Changed CVs'. It's the last video on this page: http://www.esu.eu/en/videos/lokprogrammer/
Of course it would really help to know what sound file is in your locomotive. From there all of the CVs become much easier to program.
Lee Ryan - Rio Grande Fan
Denver, CO
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#30755 I have a True Lines Train engine using the MP36 sound file. Forward and reverse Motion is fine. However, neither the lights nor the sound are functioning at all. I have reloaded the sound file several times to no avail. I have also reset the decoder via the programmer software AND manually resetting it in OPS mode with CV8=8. I have jumpered a known good speaker and still no sound. I need some other ideas everyone. Where to next?? -- _______________________________ |
#30757 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 1:05 PM John Griffin via Groups.Io <johng.sst=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
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#30758 John; No real idea on how familiar you are with LokSound, so I'm just throwing it out there, pardon if it's at the wrong level: Open the sound project you loaded to the loco hit 'Decoder' then 'Function mapping' check the right hand column, looking for some clue as to or if there is an engine sound mapped to a function key, likely keys are f1, f8, or.... (I always put my engine sounds on f12 for instance). Someplace there needs to be an engine sound mapping to something, it could even be right at the top, in the stop / forward / reverse conditions. Since it's a Select, you can't get to the sound section, but you can also look at the sound slot settings, 'decoder / Sound slot settings' and find the motor sound, it's got to have one. then you can see where it's mapped. Once you find the mapping, then make sure you activate the function key to which the motor sound is mapped, you should then have motor / engine sound. Also look at the assigned volume. Worst case scenario, put it on a test track attached to your decoder tester, and use the 'Drivers cab' to check it all out. Once you have the engine going, it's possible the lights are conditional on the motor being on. Regardless, trace the lights the same way. They have to be mapped to something. Of course, I'm assuming you have lokprogrammer, because that is the only way you can write a sound project to a decoder, so you should be good to go in regards to sleuthing out where your problem is. On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 2:05 PM John Griffin <johng.sst@...> wrote:
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#30759 Phil, Thanks for the help. I'm relatively new to Lok but getting used to it. I'll check the things you mentioned and get back. I just assumed it would be F8 not thinking it could be mapped differently. On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 3:38 PM phil_dunlop2002 <pndunlop@...> wrote:
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#30760 John, When you say a 'new' decoder, did you just install it, or did it come in the loco from new? I ask because I noticed that the files on the TLT website are only the CV settings, not the whole sound file. So if it is a new 'blank' decoder that you installed, you'd need to download a complete soundfile from the ESU website and load that to the deocder first, either of these I guess: http://projects.esu.eu/projectoverviews/search?q=mp36. Then if the CV settings in the ESU file are different to those in the file on the TLT website, write the CV file from the TLT website file to the decoder (bottom of this page): http://www.truelinetrains.ca/about-us You're probably way ahead of me but just in case... ;) Pete |
#30761 It is a new decoder I installed (blank). I did not know about the file on the TLT website but I did load the complete ESU sound file. I'll try what you have suggested. toggle quoted messageShow quoted textOn Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 5:05 PM Pete Mulvany <gp9u@...> wrote: John, -- _______________________________ |
#30762 The TLT file loaded on top of the ESU file did it!! I now have sound in the MP36. Thanks to all who gave me ideas of what to check especially Pete Mulvany for telling me about the TLT file. toggle quoted messageShow quoted textOn Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 9:43 PM John Griffin via Groups.Io <johng.sst=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
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